October 7, 2012 | By Lu Paradise — 79 total views
These Welsh boys sing beautifully about God in their interesting native language! Today’s Welsh language emerged in the 6th century from British, the common ancestor of Welsh, Breton, Cornish, and the extinct language known as Cumbric or Cymraeg. Anyway, a great choir and song glorifying God for a change! Enjoy! But did you know that the Welsh are not allowed to know about their own pre-Roman history, by mainstream Historians, Wickedpedia, nor Google?
Where Does Term ‘Welsh’ Come From?
The name ‘Welsh’ originated as an exonym given to its speakers by the Anglo-Saxons, meaning “foreign speech” (see Walha). The native term for the language is Cymraeg, and Cymru for “Wales”.
Four periods are identified in the history of Welsh, with rather indistinct boundaries: The period immediately following the language’s emergence from British is sometimes referred to as Primitive Welsh; this was followed by the Old Welsh period, considered to stretch from the beginning of the 9th century to the 12th century. The Middle Welsh period is considered to have lasted from then until the 14th century, when the Modern Welsh period began (itself divided into Early and Late Modern Welsh).
All pretty recent according to what mainstream historians say about the Welsh. But there are historians who beg to differ, like the Welsh historian Davis and others like Bill Cooper, who tell a different history!
Where Did The Welsh Come From?
The first of Noah’s grandsons mentioned is Gomer. Ezekiel locates the early descendants of Gomer, along with Togarmah (a son of Gomer), in the north quarters (Ezekiel 38:6). In modern Turkey is an area which in New Testament times was called Galatia. The Jewish historian Flavius Josephus records that the people who were called Galatians or Gauls in his day (c. AD 93) were previously called Gomerites.
They migrated westward to what are now called France and Spain. For many centuries France was called Gaul, after the descendants of Gomer. North-west Spain is called Galicia to this day.
Some of the Gomerites migrated further to what is now called Wales. The Welsh historian, Davis, records a traditional Welsh belief that the descendants of Gomer ‘landed on the Isle of Britain from France, about three hundred years after the flood’. He also records that the Welsh language is called Gomeraeg (after their ancestor Gomer). Other members of their clan settled along the way, including in Armenia. The sons of Gomer were ‘Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah’ (Genesis 10:3).
A Different Account
The great historian Dr. Bill Cooper discovered a neglected document that most Welsh never even heard about, that gives a more detailed and somewhat different account. He says,
“There lies in an Oxford library a certain old and jaded manuscript. It is written in medieval Welsh in an informal cursive hand, and is a 15th-century copy of a 12th-century original (now lost).
Its shelf-mark today is Jesus College MS LXI, but that has not always been its name. For some considerable time it went under the far more evocative name of the Tysilio Chronicle, and earlier this century a certain archaeologist made the following observation concerning it. The year was 1917, the archaeologist was Flinders Petrie, and his observation was that this manuscript was being unaccountably neglected by the scholars of his day. It was, he pointed out, perhaps the best representative of an entire group of chronicles in which are preserved certain important aspects of early British history, aspects that were not finding their way into the published notices of those whose disciplines embraced this period.
This manuscript illuminates obscure parts of early British history. Why this chronicle was so neglected in Flinders Petrie’s day, and indeed why it continues to be omitted from any serious discussion more than eighty years on, is a mystery, except that it might sin against the politically correct paradigm of the day that “there was no Flood”, as it mentions the descendants from Japheth and Noah.
Notwithstanding, the most important consideration of all is that our ancient forebears believed it to be a true and honest account, and this is the literary heritage that they have taken such pains to pass down to us. For that reason alone, their work should be read and admired, and so Cooper produced a translation of the manuscript.
It is a history that begins with the Fall of Troy. It concerns the birth of a people led by a mighty warrior Brutus after whom his pagan people, the Britains, were called! Later they were named ‘Welsh’ by the Anglo Saxons.
It recounts the settling of the British island, the succession of their kings, and the timely correction of their sins under the chastising hand of God. We hear of Romans and Saxons, of Picts, Scots and Irish, of witchery and plague, of idleness and plenty, invasion and security.
Especially for the Welsh this is a mighty interesting account to study. There are many footnotes added which deal with points of linguistic, historical, geographical and other concerns. Geoffrey of Monmouth in 1136 AD translated the Latin version and one can download the document in English of the “Chronicle of Early Britons” here in PDF format – 500k download.
This is what John Chaple has to say about The Forbidden British History on his great website
The Early Post Flood Nations
Encyclopaedia Britannica says that the Armenians traditionally claim to be descended from Togarmah and Ashkenaz. Ancient Armenia reached into Turkey. The name Turkey probably comes from Togarmah. Others of them migrated to Germany. Ashkenaz is the Hebrew word for Germany.
The next grandson mentioned is Magog. According to Ezekiel, Magog lived in the north parts (Ezekiel 38:15, 39:2). Josephus records that those whom he called Magogites, the Greeks called Scythians.1 According to Encyclopædia Britannica, the ancient name for the region which now includes part of Romania and the Ukraine was Scythia.
The next grandson is Madai. Along with Shem’s son Elam, Madai is the ancestor of our modern-day Iranians. Josephus says that the descendants of Madai were called Medes by the Greeks. Every time the Medes are mentioned in the Old Testament, the word used is the Hebrew word Madai (maday). After the time of Cyrus, the Medes are always (with one exception) mentioned along with the Persians. They became one kingdom with one law — ‘the law of the Medes and Persians’ (Daniel 6:8, 12, 15). Later they were simply called Persians. Since 1935 they have called their country Iran. The Medes also ‘settled India’.
The name of the next grandson, Javan, is the Hebrew word for Greece. Greece, Grecia, or Grecians appears five times in the Old Testament, and is always the Hebrew word Javan. Daniel refers to ‘the king of Grecia’ (Daniel 8:21), literally ‘the king of Javan’. Javan’s sons were Elishah, Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim (Genesis 10:4), all of whom have connections with the Greek people. The Elysians (an ancient Greek people) obviously received their name from Elishah. Tarshish or Tarsus was located in the region of Cilicia (modern Turkey).
Encyclopædia Britannica says that Kittim is the biblical name for Cyprus. The Greeks worshipped Jupiter under the name of Jupiter Dodanaeus, possibly a reference to the fourth son of Javan, with Jupiter a derivative of Japheth. His oracle was at Dodena.
Next is Tubal. Ezekiel mentions him along with Gog and Meshech (Ezekiel 39:1). Tiglath-pileser I, king of Assyria in about 1100 BC, refers to the descendants of Tubal as the Tabali. Josephus recorded their name as the Thobelites, who were later known as Iberes.
‘Their land, in Josephus’ day, was called by the Romans Iberia, and covered what is now (the former Soviet State of) Georgia whose capital to this day bears the name Tubal as Tbilisi. From here, having crossed the Caucasus mountains, this people migrated due north-east, giving their tribal name to the river Tobol, and hence to the famous city of Tobolsk.’
Meshech, the name of the next grandson, is the ancient name for Moscow. Moscow is both the capital of Russia, and the region that surrounds the city. To this day, one section, the Meschera Lowland, still carries the name of Meshech, virtually unchanged by the ages.
According to Josephus, the descendants of grandson Tiras were called Thirasians. The Greeks changed their name to Thracians. Thrace reached from Macedonia on the south to the Danube River on the north to the Black Sea on the east. It took in much of what became Yugoslavia. World Book Encyclopedia says: ‘The people of Thrace were savage Indo-Europeans, who liked warfare and looting.’ Tiras was worshipped by his descendants as Thuras, or Thor, the god of thunder. source
Who Was Japheth?
Japheth, literally means “opened” or “expanded”. Naturally in the sense that his descendants settled all Europe and the greater part of Asia, and later colonised and developed the Western Hemisphere previously ruled by Ham and Canaan, as Shem replaced Canaan in the Promised Land. For obvious reasons, Japheth never expanded to the Far East. And Spiritually through the fulfillment of Genesis 9:27 and Matthew 21:43 wherein Jesus said to Shem, “The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation, (“ethnos” or Gentile culture), bringing forth the fruits thereof”. That is, a people with the faith of Abraham (Galatians 3:26-29).
From Japheth derive the Indo-Europeans and the Medes. The early Aryans knew Japheth as Djapatischta (chief of the race); Greeks referred to Japheth as Iapetos or Japetos; East Indians called him Iyapeti or Pra-Japati; Romans deified him by the name Ju-Pater or Jupiter. The Saxons perpetuated his name as Iafeth, subsequently transliterated as Sceaf (pronounced sheef or shaif), and recorded in their early genealogies as the son of Noah the forebear of their various peoples (Anglo-Saxon Chronicles). The variant Seskef was used by the early Scandinavians. All of these peoples, we must remember, were pagans whose knowledge or even awareness of the book of Genesis was non-existent.
The Japhetic tribes being furthest from the theocratic center were last in attaining to historic eminence, and “enlarging” with much greater minuteness to detail the Hamitic and Arabian nations which were soonest developed and with which the Hebrews came most into contact in the initial stages of their journey through time.
History has recorded Japheth’s geographical enlargement. The entire Western hemisphere of our globe is settled by Japhetic peoples, and East Indians are of the same stock. The record of Japheth’s spread (enlargement) over the earth has been marred consistently by his destruction of the cultures which were already in existence wherever he arrived in sufficient force to achieve dominion. It happened in the Americas, Africa, Asia, Australia, and only numerical superiority of the native population has hitherto preserved parts of Africa from the same fate.
Indeed, in early historic times the pattern of events is repeated again and again, whatever cultural advances the pioneering Hamites had achieved tended to be swallowed up by the succeeding Japhethites. The “enlargement” of Japheth has continued to this day, an enlargement greatly accelerated geographically in the last few centuries — frequently at the expense of the Hamites (or Canaanites) who first possessed the land.
Gomer, literally means “completion” and is the progenitor of the early Cimmerians and other branches of the Celtic family. Settling in eastern Europe near the Black Sea, he became the Gauls/French, Galatians, Gaels/Scots, Celts/Irish, Goths/Germans/Scandinavians, Saxons/Britons/Welsh, Dutch, Armenians, Romans and related groups.
Magog, means “overtopping” or “covering”. Settling first in Georgia, a region between the Black and Caspian Seas south of the Caucasus Mountains, he became the Synthians, Russians, Belorussians and Ukranians.
Madai, means “middle land”. He settled northwest of Persia proper, south and southwest of the Caspian Sea, east of Armenia and Assyria, and west and northwest of the great salt desert of Iran in the ancient kingdom of Media, now Iraq and the northern part of Iran. He is the father of the Medes and East Indians.
Javan, means “effervescing” or one in a state of bubbling heat”. He fathered the Ionians and Greeks. His sons occupy Cyprus, Rhodes, and other islands and coasts of the Mediterranean and the coast of Spain, Italy and Portugal.
Tubal, means, “thou shalt be led”. The city of Tobolsk was named after him. He settled near Cappadocia in Asia Minor and fathered the Bulgarians, Hungarians, Albanians, Romanians, other related groups.
Meshech means “led along”. The city of Moscow (Muskovi) is named after him. Initially settling in northern Turkey south east of the Caspian Sea, he fathered the Poles, Finns, Czechs, Yugoslavs and other related groups.
Tiras, means “expulsion”, “impoverish” or “disinherit”. He settled across the Propontis and fathered the Thracians, maritime groups, and possibly the Etruscans of Italy.
Through his sons Ashkenaz, Riphath and Togarmah, Gomer peopled much of Armenia and the Carpathian Mountains.
Ashkenaz, means “a man as sprinkled: fire as scattered”. He settled first in Armenia, migrating thence to Bithynia, the northern islands of Europe and European west coast: Germany, Scandinavia and Denmark.
Riphath, means “slander: fault”. He settled in Czechslovakia, Romania, and Turkey.
Togarmah, means “thou wilt break her”. His earliest descendants settled in Armenia, Turkey and Germany. In the late eighth century BC, Assyria probably uprooted and transported most of those still living in Armenia.
Elishah, means “my God has disregarded”. The Greek translation is “Hellas“. His descendants settled in Greece.
Tarshish, means “she will cause poverty: she will shatter”. He settled Spain.
Kittim, means “beaters-down” or “bruisers”. Kittim settled Cyprus, other Mediterranean islands, and Macedonia.
Dodanium, means “leaders”. He settled Rhodes and the Dardanelles and was subsequently deified and worshipped as Jupiter Dodonaeus.
1) Josephus Antiquity of the Jews; Book 1, Chapter 6.
2) Biblebelievers.org.au website.
3) The sixteen Grandsons of Noah by Harold Hunt with Russell Grigg; First published in: Creation Ex Nihilo 20(4):22–25; September–November 1998)
4) Excerpts from Bill Cooper’s After the Flood
5) Mike Gascoigne; Forgotten History of the Western People; From Noah to Dardanus
6) The original ‘unknown’ god of China; An Ancient pictogram script points to the Bible; by Ethel Nelson.
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