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Reduced & Revised Industry and Chronology Table for Britain & Ireland from Contemporary Records

AP INTRODUCTION: We like John Hext Fremlin’s attempt to put together a chronology from the Creation of the Universe, that all the ancients testified about, via the Flood that 700 worldwide ethne talked about in their legends, through the birth of Christ, all the way until the Roman era in England, where John resides. This chronology is not necessarily set in stone, but is a fair collection of affirmed dates, plus approximated and educated guesses of other dates. It is our pleasure to post this. Thank you John.
PS: We don’t really relish the paleo-, meso-, neo-lithic “stone age” periodisation terms of John Lubbock, but never mind it. We prefer stone, iron, bronze cultures instead which were often co-existant in the same time. Think of Australian aborigines co-existing with modern Australians. We also don’t like these terms like cavemen and hunter gathrerers because it implies a progressive biological evolution of Man, whereas Man has suffered from devolution rather from bigger, smarter, longer living, high tech primo patriarchs and survivors of the Global Flood. (see our other articles on that) , But never mind all that. John did a great job.
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By John Hext Fremlin

Reduced and Revised Industry and Chronology Table for Britain and Ireland from Contemporary Records
The chronology that I have given using Usshers chronology to as near as possible the events stated within the table. Most,  if not nearly all, of the dates are calculated on Usshers chronology given how long in years or maybe a couple of hundred of years a “said ” reign of kings or dynasty lasted. Given the remoteness of the period under investigation one is never going to get absolutes. Two slightly differing chronologies are given below for discussion

Legend: AM = Anno Mundi, BP Before Present, BC= Before Christ

Date AM Industries Dates BC Events
0 4004 Creation
1656 2348 Flood
1757 2247 Birth of Peleg and division
1762 2242 Post flood ice age and dispersion from Babel
2008 1996 Birth of Abraham
2513 1491 Exodus of Israelites from Egypt
2520 Stone Age/copper Paleo/meso/neolithic 1484 Partholan and Formores arrive in  Ireland (Contemporary)
2550 1454 Death of Partholan
2859 Bronze industry 1145 Nemedians arrive in Ireland
2900 Bronze 1104 Brutus the first colonist of the ancient Britons arrives in Totnes defeats giants possibly Formores, and is first king of the ancient Britons
? ? Formores get a hold on Ireland and the next colony are the Firbolgues and Picts
3303 701 Returning colony of Tuatha de Dannan
3500 Iron (A) 504 Melisians take Ireland from Tuath de Dannan and arrive at the river Slaney
3784 Iron (B) 220 The Latene Celts arrive in Britain from France.
3904 100 The Picts arrive in Scotland

John HXF’s interpretation of Mike Gascoigne’s Industry and Chronology Table of Britain and Ireland according to the annals of Clon Mac Nois

Date AM Industries Dates BC Events
0 3963 Creation
1656 2307 Flood
1948 2015 Birth of Abraham
1969 about 17 may stone age (palaeo/meso/neolithic) 1994 Partholan arrives in Ireland
2268 Neolithic/copper 1695 Nemedius arrives in Ireland
2448 1515 Exodus from Egypt
2650 1313 Formores control Ireland
2700 Bronze 1263 Firbolgue sons of Dela
2737 1226 Tuatha de Dannan in Ireland
? Bronze ? Brutus in Britain
2934 Iron (A) 1029 Melisians take Ireland from Tuatha de Dannan
3507 Iron (B) 456 Simon Brech
3513 450 Kimboy Mcflinton is crowned king of Ulster where palace is built and lasted 855 years
3770 193 Maccabees
3904 59 Herod
 100 BC = 3904 AM

John HXF’s interpretation of Mike Gascoigne’s Industry and Chronology Table of Britain and Ireland according to the annals of Clon Mac Noise

Date AM Industries Dates BC Events
0 3963 Creation
1656 2307 Flood
1948 2015 Birth of Abraham
1969 about 17 may stone age (palaeo/meso/neolithic) 1994 Partholan arrives in Ireland
2268 Neolithic/copper 1695 Nemedius arrives in Ireland
2448 1515 Exodus from Egypt
2650 1313 Formores control Ireland
2700 Bronze 1263 Firbolgue sons of Dela
2737 1226 Tuatha de Dannan in Ireland
? Bronze ? Brutus in Britain
2934 Iron (A) 1029 Melisians take Ireland from Tuatha de Dannan
3507 Iron (B) 456 Simon Brech
3513 450 Kimboy Mcflinton is crowned king of Ulster where palace is built and lasted 855 years
3770 193 Maccabees
3904 59 Herod

 Combined Industries Table for Britain, Ireland, the Middle East and Bible Lands

Dates AM Industries Dates BC Events Creation
0 4004 Creation
1656 2348 Flood
1757 Early Stone Industry. Hunter-Gatherers pass through Britain 2247 BC Division in Days if Peleg, World Survey and Ice Age
1770 2234 Founding of Babel and Tower takes 43 years to build
1796 Middle or Intermediate Stone Industry 2208 Ciocal son of Neil discovers Ireland 140 years after the flood
1810 – 1811 Late Stone Industry 2194-2193 Germany/Austria settled 155 years after the flood and 40 yrs after Babel. Tuiche or Shem HLH
1813 2191 Dispersion from Babel
1910 Late Stone Industry 2094 Samothians arrive in Britain
1951 2053 Trier founded by Trebetta son of Ninius the Assyrian 1300 yrs before Rome was founded

(Austrian Chronicle and Compendium of World History)

1969 Neanderthal in Britain. Stone tool cultures contemporary. 2035 Parthelon arrives in Ireland. Older men of Genesis 10 in England.
1979 2025 Formores fight Parthelon. Battle of Magithe.
1979 Middle stone and late stone industries side by side 2025 Ciocal and his band of Formorian hunter-gatherers return to Ireland to hunt and fish. Finds Parthelon and fights the battle of Magithe
2008 1996 Birth of Abraham.
2234 Founding of Babel and Tower takes 43 years to build
2299 1705 Nemedians in Ireland.
2369 Late stone and copper industry 1635 Scotland and Britain colonised by Nemed’s descendants (alternative history part 2).
2513 – 2524 EB1 reaches Britain and Ireland. 1491

1480

Exodus

Gaytholos and Scotta go to Ireland.

2715 1289 Firbolgue sons of Dela in Ireland.
2752 1252 Tuatha de Dannan in Ireland.
2888 EB1 and MB1 in Britain 1116 Brutus in Britain.
2949-2989 MB2 stimulated by Solomon. 1055-1015 Melitus in Ireland.
2559-2923 MB 1 1445-1081 Israel
2923-3282 MB 2 1081-722 Israel
2923-3418 MB 2 1081-586 Judah
3282-3465 Late Iron 722-539 Israel.
3465-3704 Iron 539-300 Israel (Ref Darrell K White)
3522-3570 Iron A 482-434 Line of Brutus ends. Civil War. Compendium of World History Ch 19 Vol 1 HLH
3705-3714 Iron B 299-290 Latene Celts in Days of Morindus invade Britain.
3949-3950 55-54 Two Roman invasions of Britain by Julius Caesar.

FROM CREATION AND THE ICE AGE TO THE ROMANS:   

The Guildhall history of Britain and Ireland

Chapter 1

The stone circles of stone henge and Avebury were probably started about 1484 BC
and finished by the dynasty started by Brutus and the ancient Britons. I
would like us to turn now to the Mesolithic colony of the formores of whom
it is said that a battle was fought between them and the people of Partholan
and that all the bodies remained unburied and Partholan died  30 years later
after he landed in Ireland in 1454stoTSubject:      BC so the annals tell
us. Mr. Donald A McKenzie tells us in his “Ancient man in Britain ” that the
hunter gatherers used to raid the farm steads of the agriculturalists or the
Neolithic industry people so this is true of the formores who frequented
lakes and river banks or lived a long the seashore by fishing; but in any
event they were hunter gatherers. The Paleolithic industry people probably
kept to remote forests and caves (if any were to be found) further in land
while the Neolithic people inhabited the chalk downs of Britain and Windmill
hill. There are a lot of remains found in the causewayed camps and in outer
ditches of their farmsteads &c and they used barbed flint arrow heads of
polished flint while the Mesolithic people used what are called microliths
and indeed some have been found in the vicinity of stone henge. There are
abundant flint axes found in Ireland and notably Tory Island of Mesolithic
origin which was the power base of the formores who could well have been of
“AZilian culture, and the combined industries of the Mesolithic industry
were the combined  Maglemosian/Tardenoisian/Azilian combined industries. It
will help us to relate to our sources here.  The people of Japheth are
related to in ancient Assyrian documents for the people of Ashkenaz from the
7th century BC; (Bill Cooper: “After the flood” page 205). “The people of
Mesheck has been deduced from inscriptions from the 7th to the 13th
centuries BC; so this is information from distant contemporaries. It will be
shown in our next chapter on the bronze and iron ages that the Mesolithic
industry people persisted right into the British and Irish bronze ages.
Footnote 1: Neolithic and Chalcolithic contemporary industries (From an email to Larry Pierce)

Dear Larry I found something interesting with regard to the above
subject. And I would like to recommend this page to you as it makes
interesting reading. If you have a slow dialing modem on your pc then why
not go to your local library and book on to a pc and click on
http://www.consciousevolution.com/Rennes/arthurchapter7.htm and you will
find the relevant info on page 2 of 15 which says the indo european
migration of ca 1500 BC had a primitive metal technology before they came to
Europe which for our purposes would be 1484 BCand am 2520. The idea that the
copper age so called came after the neolithic here in these islands is false
because copper and stone age tools have been found in the tooms and burial
mounds of these peoples and the author of the webpage insists that the two
industries overlapped at the same time and it is interesting to note that
when they came to Britain and Ireland they also prospected for gold and even
silver as well as amber. I also suggest that the neanderthal were
contemporary with the indo european migration at the same time. It seems
that the so called neolithic is the stumbling block here and people don’t
realise that the chalcolithic (copper industry) flowered at the same time as
the neolithic industry so it was chalcolithic and “neolithic ” at the same
time. If you can go to your library Larry and read this page I know it will
interest you. John

Footnote 2
As has been said before the people of Partholan and associated British
neolithic industries also had the copper industry ;and further to our
enquiry according to Mr Donald A Macenzy; gold ; copper ; tin ; lead &c
have been found in the glacial drift in the orkneys plus also flint and
quarts. It also has to be borne in mind in this connection that there are
flint mines notably at Grimes Graves in Norfolk and that this is the place
where the neolithic industry people obtained their flint. While the
chalcolithic flowered with the beginning of the neolithic epoch in 1484 BC;
it also has to be borne in mind in this connection that while it was late
neolithic in the sense that everyone was using flint tools such as the
peasantry for example and flints of typical neolithic polished finish it
could have been and this author insists here was late bronze age at the same time.   (Bronze and Iron) It has also to be said here that the beginning of the iron age flowered with the beginning of the bronze age in this connection that it was’nt the iron industry or age properly speaking until swords and weopons were made of iron although when the bronze industry was introduced iron was used for certain things and weopons were made of bronze.
Now while that this is the case it has to be said here that the so called ages of bronze and iron overlap. When Iron was used for swords spears and weopons it also has to be said that the Halstatt celts also introduced enamel working at the same time so in a nutshell it was the Bronze , Iron and Enamel industries for which the British celt is famous in this connection especially enamel working. JohnHXF Author

 

Chapter 2:   The Bronze and Iron industries.

We will now have a look at the bronze and iron industries of Britain and Ireland.  First though a note on the Paleolithic industries whose tools and weapons were  of unpolished flint and some of better quality than others which were flaked as in the upper Paleolithic of the Cro-Magnon who along side that of Neanderthal were responsible for many of the cave paintings and it is possible and there is indeed evidence that they may have been associated with some of the megaliths. The ice age and dispersion happened in 2242 BC according to Larry Pierce with the division in the days or birth of Peleg in 2247 BC. However the ice age glaciers began to melt shortly after am 2520 or 1484 BC. It should however be noted that according to Bill Cooper page 251 and 252 “After the flood that the ice age could have lasted 1000 years and a bit more; but we can safely say that this happened when our next colony who were the nemedians came to Ireland in annomundi 2859 or 1145 BC and they are credited with building certain types of defenses and a certain method of clearing the land for a particular method of cultivation and introduced on Ireland according to Charles S Kimball the Bronze industry as can be evidenced by their remains from burial mounds such as new grange in Ireland.
There were also in Ireland lakes that broke out and this was the course of melting glaciers of the ice age. On Britain Our fist colonist Brutus led the ancient Britons and they landed in Tones in Devon. This  dynasty according to Mr. Charles S Kimball was responsible for the start of the bronze industry; but they according to the annals of Britain had to expel an indigenous number or remnant of giants most probably Formores who according to Mr. Kimball were the last Neanderthals in Europe; but they probably came with the Neolithic colony at the same time as the formores in Ireland in 1484 BC. References will be sighted at the end of this chapter. The Neolithic colony on Britain lasted for 380 years from 1484 to 1104 BC or AM
2900 (Brutus). I am going to suggest here that Brutus founded London and propose that the Vauxhall wooden bridge across the Thames was built by his men in 1104 BC and indeed the legend of the sword in the stone can be linked to Brutus in the legend of Persius.
www.consciousevolution.com/Renes/arthurchapter4. The tin mines in Cornwall can be traced also back to 1104 BC and stone henge which I propose was none other than the original round table can also be credited to Brutus. Corenious a cousin of Brutus founded Cornwall and I propose he had something to do with the copper and tin mines in Cornwall. However when Brutus arrived in Tones he fought with the giants Gog and Magog and Corenius picked up one
of the giants and through him over a cliff (Hence the name Gogmagog’s Leap.
) There have also been some bronze artifacts as well as burial mounds in Devon and on Ireland the formores got a foothold although the date is uncertain we can assume they must have invaded Ireland about the same time as Brutus colonized Britain . And also between 1145 and 701 BC the nemedians were  gradually dispersed after having repelled the formorians they lived like pirates for a wile until some of their colony went north and came back to Ireland as the Firbolgue and Picts while the others came back to Ireland as the returning colony of Tuatha de dannan in AM 3303 or 701 BC;
However before that the nemedians were forced by the formores into
submission when they took Ireland from the Nemedians who left Ireland and one of their groups came back as the return colony of tuatha de dannan. Before the introduction into Britain and Ireland of the Iron industry it is interesting to note that Britain became an island in about 687 BC according to Velekovskey or at least was finally broken away from France and the North sea rose back again for the last time as the result of some ice age catastrophe. It will be noted however a lot of bronze age weaponry and stone age tools not to mention the remains of prehistoric animals like the mammoth have also been found in the north sea along side bronze age artifacts and henges under the sea; such as sea henge for example. So this
is where we must leave it and begin our iron industry period from annomundi
3500 or 504 BC (sited in the annals of the world by Bishop Ussher) We have our last and final colony in Ireland who introduced the iron industry. These people were the children of Milid or Milisians who landed un-noticed in the River Slaney in Ireland. The lives of the people of Melitus had been made precarious for decades by the ambitions of the Persian army prior to the fall of their city; and nothing would have been more natural that a colony should decide to flee and look for a new haven. They would seek some safe fertile land which was well-known to the Phoenician mariners such as Ireland and this they did and took Ireland from the tuatha de dannan.
Co-incidentally the tuatha de Danna finally expelled the formores in 701 BC. Iron B was introduced by the Latene Celts in 220 BC. The Milisians were infact the Halstatt Celts because they worshipped the God Danu and made gods of the tuatha de dannan. According to Mr. Charles s Kimball the Picts didn’t arrive until 100 BC. And from here we come to our third chapter. Chapter 3 on the coming of the Romans. The Picts arrived in Scotland about 100 BC.
According to Velekovskey there were according to “earth in upheaval” somewhere between 700 and 1000 BC people living side by side in Paleolithic time Mesolithic time Neolithic time and bronze time also simultaneously.

References and Links for chapters 1 and 2:

1 Bill Cooper after the flood page 205 (The descendants of Japheth) 2 The Milisians After the flood (Bill Cooper pages 116/117) 3. The ice age (Bill Cooper “After the flood” 251/252) 4. The bronze age link to Brutus ; http://www.consiousevolution.com/Rennes/arthurchapter4. 5.Neolithic bronze and iron industries to Mr. Charles S Kimball
http://xenohistorian.faithweb.com/europe/eu01.html pages 35 and 36. 6. The formores Peter Beresford’s dictionary of Celtic mythology

Chapter 3: The Romans

Our next chapter concerns the coming of the Romans in 55 BC under Julius Caesar. The Romans came once in 55 BC and the 2nd time in 54 BC and the Britons were led by one Casevelaunus who put up fierce resistance. The Romans landed in Kent and  didn’t expect that the Britons would be well organized. In one of Caesar’s invasions The Britons had thought the Romans had Gone or retreated and this was when Caesar came the second time in 54 BC and were camped further inland on the river Medway and  surprised them
though they didn’t conquer these islands until AD 43 under emperor
Claudius. Caracas’s put up fierce resistance  against the Romans and was betrayed  to the Romans by Queen catamandua of the Northern Iceni who was a puppet queen under the Romans and Caracas’s was taken in chains to Rome; But he told the Romans that they came to raid the huts of the Britons and that they the Romans were better-off than they the Britons were and the Romans eventually released him and he stayed in Rome; provided that he did not rebel against Roman rule. It must be borne in mind that the ancient Britons were highly skilled even before the Romans invaded these Islands and made things out of enamel; Bronze and iron and even had enamel on their shields. The Romans on the other hand had much to contribute in the way of under ground central heating and villas. Many of the Britons became Romanized or Romano British Celts and co-existed peacefully alongside the Romans. Claudius reigned from AD 43 until AD 54 and then Nero became emperor and during his time; the Romans under Catus  Decianusa started to rape the daughters of Queen Boadicea; and in revenge she rose up against the Romans and reduced Colchester to ashes; but eventually the Romans re-grouped and defeated the Iceni and as some call her “Boudica” rather than be taken by the Romans she took poison.

It must be borne in mind that the Romans never conquered the whole of Britain so Hadrian built the wall which kept the Picts out who were a threat through out the period of occupation. Agricola led a campaign against them but never defeated them . The period under investigation it will be noted goes as far as to when the Romans left Britain

The  reign of Roman emperors is as follows : Augustus 31BC to 14 AD. Tiberius AD 14-37. Caligula the mad Roman emperor AD 37-41. Claudius 41-54.
Caligula’s uncle murdered probably by Aggripina. Nero AD 54-68. Nero commits suicide. Galba is the next emperor in line from 68-69. Otho reigned  3 months and committed suicide in 69 Ad. Vespasian from 69to 79. Titus ruled from 79 to 81. Domitian AD 81 to 96. Nerva 96 to 98. Trajen 98 to 117 who was a Spaniard. Hadrian 98 to 138 who was also a Spaniard Antonius Pius 138-161.
Marcus Aurelius 161 to 180 and murdered by his son. Comodus 180 to 192 and assassinated on 31st December AD 192. Pertinax 1st Jan 193 to 28th march 193 and he was murdered by the Praetorians. Didus Julianus 193 appointed emperor by Praetorians.

Septimus Severus from 193 to 211 ; Member of family from Trippolitiana died in York having earlier fought the Scots .Caracalla and GETA 211 -217 Macrinus 217 to 218 killed with his son in battle. Elaggabalus 218to 222 and murdered by prarorians. Alexandra 222 until 235.Maximus (March 235 and killed in 238 Gordianus was emperor for 36 days Maximus and Balbinus ruled a few months in AD 238. The next emperor was Gordian (238-244). Grandson of Gordianus murdered by troops during campaign in Persia. Philip 244-248/249.Decius 248-251. Galus 251- 253 (He was murdered,AEmilianus 253 also murdered. Valerian and Gallienus AD 253-268. Valerian murdered by Persian king Sapor in Persia and died in AD 260Gallienus the son of Valerian murdered by his chiefs of staff in 268. Claudius the 2nd 268 until 270 died of pestilence at Sermium having defeated the Goths; just before his death he proclaimed Aurelian emperor. from 270 till 275 and killed by army officers. Tacitus AD 275 – 276 and reigned for six months.

The next inline was Probus who ruled from AD 275 to 282 and was killed by his discontented troops. Carus ruled from 282 to283/284 with Nmerian and Carinus  reigning jointly in AD 284 and the next emperor was a notorious persecutor of Christians who ruled  from 284 to 305 and one of the Christian saints of the time was Alban who was  beheaded. This was Diocletian who abdicated in AD 305 and died in 316. The sons of Carus were killed by Diocletian in 284.  Maximian was the Roman governor of Britain who later became Caesar and then “Augustus” in 286 . Maximian abdicated in 305 along with Diocletian. Next there  were two more Caesars: Galereus and Consantius clorus and he had a son called Constantine who became the first Christian emperor and made Christianity the official religion of the empire.
The Saxons were a problem for the Romans at this time and eventually the Romans with drew their troops from Britain in AD 410 because the Romans were being attacked by Huns Vandals and Goths which led to the sack of Rome and this is where we leave our chapter on the Romans.

REFERENCE: http://users.tibus.com/decline-and-fall/emperors.htm.

An Alternative Post-flood History of Britain and Ireland From Creation and the Ice age to the Romans:-

Chapter One:-

Every one knows that the creation occured in 4004 BC according to Ussher’s famous date and contrary to what evolutionists would have us believe Iron and Bronze working existed from the time of Creation. Tubal Cain was an artificer in metal working in Brass (Bronze ) and Iron working and metals of every kind and was carriied through the flood and in Britain where there were civilization centres through 2300 on world survey expeditions by ship right through to am 1757 and 2247 BC in the days of Peleg when came the division of Nations while some nations kept their technology others became decultured such as the Neanderthals of Europe who possibly traded in their metal tools or lost the technology altogether and were thus plunged into using stone tools. These are what archaeologists call the palaeolithic/mesolithic cultures which are here confined to industries only and it will be noted inthis connection that at the date of 2247 BC they simply passed through Britain but did not colonise it until after the dispersion. According to this history Babel was founded in 2234 BC and the tower took it;s builders 43 years to complete but was destroyed in 2191 BC and the people dispersed . They reached Britain and Europe by annomundi 1910 and 2094 BC. These were the earliest Celts under Samothes and were late stone industries (Compendium of World History chapter 19 volume One

Druis, the the fourth in line, was after the time of Abraham and was the ancestor of the Druids. There is unfortunately no room for this showinf in my alternative Industry Table for Britain and Ireland so will therefore here for our purposes be confined to the text. Druis ruled 1936 to 1922 BC (Compendium of World History chapter 19 volume one HLH). Nemed ruled Ireland from 1705 BC with the formorians fitting in somewhere between 1705 and 1289 BC.   Chapter Two:- Reintroduction of Bronze working in Britain:- The Exodus occurred in annomundi 2513 and 1491 BC when Gaytholos and Scotta were in Egypt and is identified with EB1 which was probably introduced into the Isles when they came to Britain and the date was about 1480 BC or annomundi 2524. The next invasion of Ireland was carried out by the Firbolgue sons of Dela (Mike Gascoigne Forgotten History of the Western People) and they arrived in Ireland in 1289 BC eith the tuatha de dannans arriving in 1252 BC. Brutus arrived in Britain in Totnes in ca 1116 BC and thus is a mix of EB1 and MBI. The Milesians in Ireland came in 1055 to 1015 BC and according to my chart is classified as MB2 probably stimulated by Solomon. Our Next chapter deals with the introduction of the Iron industries when iron is the metal used for weaponry such as swords to replace the ones made of Bronze and earmarks the end of the line of Brutus and civil war.

 

Our Last and final chapter deals with the end of the line of Brutus right up to the Romans but will be very brief. The end of the line of Brutus ended in 482 to 434 BC with civil unrest and a new line of kings in the days of Silvius and Jasso. This was when Iron swords replaced theones made of Bronze although the Bronze industry people were not ignorent of the use of Iron which was used for agricultural purposes. So these new people 482 to 434 BC were the “Iron (A) invaders followed  in the days of Morindus King of Britain (Compendium of World History volume one chapter 19 HLH) by the Latene celt invaders in 299 to 290 BC and these were the Iron (B) invaders which did’nt maintain a foot hold on Britain (Compendium chapter 19 vol one). Eventually Julius Caesar invaded Britain twice:- Once in 55 and the second time in 54 BC. The Romans conquered Britain although not all of it and the Picts were troublesome through out the occupation and Claudius conquered Britain in AD 43 and the Romans left Britain in AD 410 to try and repell the Goths Vandals and Huns. This concludes our alternative history of Britain and Ireland although Brief but hope it has made interesting reading.
Author JohnHXF

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